If you were to read carefully what I have written this whole week, which is a hell of a lot, you can detect that in some parts I state facts, some parts are reports about what others said or did, and some parts are my opinion or interpretation of events. If you want to respond to what I said, you must first distinguish one from the other. And this appears to be where we have failed to communicate properly.
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
I have written about 20 pages
with a word count of probably 10,000 words or so since the beginning of
this week. I thought that means I can now take a break but it looks like
rest would have to wait for another day. There appears to be still some
issues that we need to resolve.
Some
of you probably noticed that your comments were not posted. The problem
is if I do post them then I would have to reply to them because those
comments were totally off the mark. And since those comments were
harping on points I have already addressed it would mean I would have to
repeat what I have already said in the article. Hence it is no point
repeating in the comments section what I have already said in the
article.
Furthermore, some of
those comments were scolding me for what I reported regarding what
others said. If you disagree with what, say, Prime Minister Najib Tun
Razak said, that is fine with me. But why scold me for what Najib said
when I was only reporting what he said? Don’t kill the messenger if you
don’t like the message.
My
conclusion is that some of you are still vague about the difference
between an opinion and a report. You do not understand the difference
between facts and views. You regard everything as opinions or views.
Thus we may need to go back to basics and take a lesson on the
difference between opinions, facts, testimonies, reports, dogma,
beliefs, evidence, science, etc. And there is a difference so let me run
some examples by you to demonstrate what I mean.
Say
you make a statement saying that Jesus was crucified and was
resurrected three days later and that this is symbolic of God
sacrificing his son to save mankind, meaning Jesus paid for our sins so
that we can be guaranteed heaven when we die.
You
take that as fact. That is not fact. That is dogma. That is what you
have been told. That is what someone else reported and you are just
repeating what someone told you had happened. You were not there. You
did not see this happen. You read in a book that this was what happened
or someone told you in Sunday school or in church that this was what
happened.
I consider that as your
belief. Okay, your opinion is this did happen. You believe this to be
true. But it is still not your opinion in the real sense. It is the
opinion of the church. And you believe that the church is right. You
share that opinion.
Say you
believe that mankind has existed for 6,000 years because this is what
the church tells you and you believe what the church tells you. And,
say, I disagree with you because I believe that mankind has existed for
more than a million years based on carbon dating. Hence my opinion is
that the church is wrong and the scientists are right.
Clearly
we have a difference of opinion here. You hold on to religious dogma
and believe that the church is right. I reject religious dogma and
believe that the church is wrong. Hence we do not share the same
opinion.
You have your reason for
holding on to your belief. And your reason would be because you have
faith -- and because you have faith you accept religious dogma. I, on
the other hand, do not share your faith so I would have a different
opinion to yours.
So what do we
have here? We have the report about the incident of Jesus. We have the
faith that makes you believe in the incident. Then we have different
opinions about whether this incident and the dogma as the basis of our
faith being correct or not.
At
this point some of you staunch Christians are going to disagree with me.
You will then quote passages and verses from the Bible to support your
argument. And you are going to present this as facts.
You
regard the Bible as a book of facts and hence whatever is in the Bible,
which you quote to me, are facts. To me those are not facts. It is your
opinion that they are facts. My opinion is the Bible is not yet the
evidence of all this being facts.
Hence
whatever you may have to say about what the Bible says is still your
opinion. More accurately, it is someone else’s opinion, which you have
accepted as a fact. You cannot prove what the Bible says. So you are
unable to prove what you regard as fact. That means it cannot be a fact.
At best it is your opinion that this report, which you were told and
did not witness, is true. My opinion would be you are wrong and in any
court of law what you say would be classified as hearsay and, therefore,
inadmissible as evidence.
I know
this sounds very complicating but I hope this demonstrates the
difference between facts, reports, opinions and whatnot. You can’t treat
everything as facts or everything as opinions and respond to what is
being said as if they are all one and the same.
If
you were to read carefully what I have written this whole week, which
is a hell of a lot, you can detect that in some parts I state facts,
some parts are reports about what others said or did, and some parts are
my opinion or interpretation of events. If you want to respond to what I
said, you must first distinguish one from the other. And this appears
to be where we have failed to communicate properly.
For
example, the Bersih 3.0 rally did happen. There is no dispute here. So
that is fact. Furthermore, the Bersih 3.0 rally ended in violence. There
is no dispute here as well. So that too is fact. Hence do we need to
argue about this matter? This should be an area of no contest.
Now,
with regards to how many people took to the streets last Saturday, we
may disagree here. There was no roll call or attendance taken. Hence we
need to estimate the crowd turnout. Your opinion could be 300,000.
Another person feels it was 150,000. Then someone else may think it was
only 30,000.
Since there is no
evidence and it was based merely on estimation, the figure would depend
on the method you applied. Hence whatever figure you quote is not fact
but your opinion. Hence also, I am free to disagree with you if I think
that your basis for arriving at the figure is wrong.
If,
however, you had asked everyone to sign an attendance sheet and the
number of names and signatures come to 300,000 then I would have to
concede that you are right and I am wrong. Since it is my word against
yours and based on each other’s methods applied at arriving at the
estimated figure then we would have to agree that this is merely our
opinions and that we have a difference of opinion.
But
is this a reason to scold each other just because we cannot agree with
the final tally? We both do not have tangible evidence. We are both
using estimates or intelligent guesses at best. So we can agree that we
disagree and leave it at that. There is not reason to scold and curse
because your estimate differs from mine.
I
am just using this argument as an example. I never quoted any figures
in any of my articles because I do not have any basis for coming to any
figure. I just looked at the photographs and videos and I am not able to
scientifically calculate the number of people who turned out based on
just this.
What I can do is to
report what others said. The police quoted a figure of 25,000. Some news
agencies said 30,000. Others said 80,000. Then there is the figure of
150,00. Anwar Ibrahim announced it as 250,000. Some PKR leaders said it
was 300,000. Nobody explained what basis they used to arrive at their
estimation. Hence I would rather not talk about the figure because I
really do not know who is right and who is wrong.
However,
because I would not ‘endorse’ the figure, some of you get angry. You
make all sorts of allegations as if I am trying to ‘report negatively’.
By not giving my opinion as to what the figure was some of you take that
as an unfavourable report. How do I confirm who is right and who is
wrong? When the discrepancy is 25,000 to 300,000 that is too large a
variance. And I don’t even know how everyone came to these estimates
because they never told us.
When I
said that the plan was to turn Bersih 3.0 into the Malaysian Spring by
first occupying Dataran Merdeka that was not my opinion. I reported what
some PKR people said plus what the Prime Minister, Umno, the police,
etc., said. Then I explained why the police was so adamant that no one
is to cross the police line and step foot on Dataran Merdeka. Those are
all facts. Those are not my opinions so don’t scold me for saying that.
Now,
let us talk about the part that is my opinion. My opinion is that the
police act under orders. Is that not what all of you say as well -- that
the police are the tool of Umno? So, my opinion is that it is the
Minister or the Prime Minister who ordered the police to make sure that
no one jumps over the barricades.
The
police did not say this, neither did the Minister or Prime Minister.
Hence that is my opinion. But I have a basis for coming to this
conclusion and I explained in great detail the basis I applied. Then I
gave my opinion as to why the police were given that order, in that
Najib was scared he would be ousted if Bersih turns into a Malaysian
Spring.
I then quoted what many
people such as Tun Dr Mahathir, Najib, the Minister, the police, etc.,
said to support my suspicion that this was what they were worried about.
I may have just been giving my opinion but I support my opinion with
events and statements. I did not just pluck this from the top of my
head.
Have I read the whole thing
wrong? Maybe I did. Maybe I misinterpreted the events or misunderstood
what these people said. But then since this is merely my opinion I may
be wrong or I may be right. You may not share my opinion. That is
natural and quite understandable. But this does not give you a blank
cheque to scold me just because my opinion differs from yours.
Anyway,
I will stop here for now. I just hope you now better understand how
opinions work and the difference between opinions and facts. When I
write opinion pieces they are just that, opinions. However, being the cheong hei
person that I am, I always go into detail about what happened and who
said what before I present you with my opinions. And you are always free
to counter my opinions with your opinions if you think I am wrong.
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