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Tuesday, 20 July 2010

Comments from Malaysiakini (No protection order so ex-airman chooses jail)

Anonymous Gangsters in uniform and robbers in suits acting in concert to thwart justice for an innocent and poor fall guy.
1 hours ago · Report
Saleem Khan What an accused going to jail to be protected from........the Complainant.......Y..n the Judge has no powers to protect him....It is not a racial issue it is a fact that our Judges dont know their law n have no common sense or as is rumoured that they are under instructions from UMNO, to which I am not privy..........................WHAT OF INHERENT JURISDICTION..dont blame this cow sitting higher than the more intelligent Lawyers who appear b4 her.
2 hours ago · Report
Robert L Sounds like mob rule in Malaysia now, where torture is practised everywhere, including in police custody, and in the air force. Never heard of anyone wanting to go to jail for protection until now...
2 hours ago · Report
Anonymous he has no option but to jump from the frying pan into the fire. He is cornered, in jail.
2 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Wow! What we are hearing now is elements in the RMAF is allegedly trying to abduct a civilian.
3 hours ago · Report
fairplayer May I suggest that Tharmendran be given pen and paper, or laptop, to detail what he knows about the jet engines disappearance and the torturers' identity/identities. Is there really protection in jail? Hopefully enough peace for some sanity and plenty of time to journal all his RMAF experiences. Tharmendran should reveal the names of his torturers.
3 hours ago · Report
Jimmy Ng ..wow!..looks like another sinister plot is hatching in Bolehland !! i smell C4 again !...this one has the makings of a Hollywood movie with a cloak & dagger plot !A??
3 hours ago · Report
Nathan Wah pikr itu ketua ar posh kasi tankap hatam sama dia habid habid sampai kasi lia mungta lalah.mana buleh itu satu sgt india ambek itu motor kapal teleban kasi juan sama itu lua negeli. Manyak belat loh.
3 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Please,this is not an Indian facing the music.For a period of time,paying my dues slightly more than twenty years,I'm quite sure that sgt.is going through all over again but this time no more a fool like the first time.But tonight,do you know what is he doing?Just after the main Muster,the last body count about 4.30pm,everyone has to be in their cells locked until tomorow morning.With two blankets each,by ten o'clock,all lights off.On the floor,you make your own decision with the blankets.Usually one folded as the pillow and the other,half to cover the body from the cement floor and the last half doing what normally it does.With good co-operation from the officers and staff,half of his security is being taken care off,but what about the other half?Due to lack of staff,be reminded of the old Malay proverb `Malang Tak Berbau.'The best I can suggest,get him placed under segregation which is one hour out of the cell everyday,so Presiden and DPP,can you imagine if you're there?
3 hours ago · Report
Ahmad Shahir b Mohd Nuri Let us all Malaysian united. Let us show UMNO/BN people power. Poor guy has to go to jail to protect himself and rich guy can engage own security or get out of this BOLEHLAND, a land of no hope should UMNO/BN continues to rule. Let us change all this nonsense to a better Malaysia under PR. We have seen enough and we have run out tears for all these poor people. Enough with Atlantuya and the two poor policemen, enough with Teoh Beng Hock, Kugan, Bala, RPK, Memali kampong folks, and so many more. Only our vote can put a stop to this.
4 hours ago · Report
Pemerhati We learnt from Tharmendran and his father that he was tortured by the Military intelligence and asked to take the blame for the theft of the engines. It appears that today the real culprits or their agents were trying to kidnap him and then ‘turn him over’ or prevent him from giving his side of the story by some other means. Today’s episode strongly indicates that Tharmendran could be telling the truth and that other influential people are involved in the theft. Let us hope that these crooked people are now not able to coerce or harm Tharmendran in the prison. But if anything untoward were to happen to Tharmendran then the suspicion will be that, just as in the Altantuya case, people at an extremely high level are involved.
4 hours ago · Report
Anonymous so whats the big deal about the two stupid fools who are not concern about their lifes that you guy are concern. why want to hide the buddys who join hand with them. barani buat berani tanggunglah. e public are concern about these guys but they are trying to safe guard the others guys who were also involved.
5 hours ago · Report
Abil How is that only now that we seem to have multiple scenerio, where accused are frighten of being abducted, the public is worried that exist a body or bodies who are law unto themselves. Cases like the mystery murder of Altunya, the unfortunate death of Teoh are scarring people that the rule of law is colapse.
5 hours ago · Report
DontPlayGod For those who choose to post under annonymous, please use a pseudonym instead. It is rather confusing, as it is difficult to refer to this writer. It is better not to post if even choosing a pseudonym is a problem.
5 hours ago · Report
sincere citizen No where in Malaysia is safe, the only safe place will be out of Malaysia.
6 hours ago · Report
Harris Ali pegi jail sure ka selamat? kalau selamat dah lama bala lari ke jail iyer dak?
6 hours ago · Report
cala joe friday. My understanding is any subscriber who posts a comment without a "name, or pseudonym" will activate "Anonymous" name. So you have many different contributors here.
6 hours ago · Report
Mohd. Hazwan Joe Friday, its true, I'm equally confused
6 hours ago · Report
joe friday There are suddenly too many commentators nicknamed 'Anonymous' that l'm confused as to whether we have characters with split personalities around!
6 hours ago · Report
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6 hours ago · Report
lim chong leong Poor guy can't do a Bala cos he is not financed by and carpet man and Rosie Mah. So, instead of London, he has to go to Sungai Buloh.
6 hours ago · Report
lim chong leong Normally in jail, the accused suddenly find too much remorse to cope and conveniently also finds a piece of rope. The jail is not a safe place. Better be in Kamunting. Ask Hisham to do a Syed Hamid with the ISA.
6 hours ago · Report
sick The least the Judge could and ought to have done was to call and find out who the three monkeys from the ARMY who wre milling around the Court and for what reason. He can't just say I have no jurisdiction and allow any criminal act to take place in his court in front of his own eyes!!!!. Surely in the temple of justice he as the Lord must do something nevermind the nicecities of the law. But heck how many in the bench are so well versed with the law with merotocracy blatanly put in the back burner.
7 hours ago · Report
Homo sapean Mathir rules it all, so we face it all.
7 hours ago · Report
CarL Sad , very sad. If what is happening is true, then all accused will be not be safe anywhere. He is an accused, not guilty till proven, and as such he should be given all the rights of a citizen of this country. I cannot believe what is happening, the Armed forces must come out and say something. Silence in this case is not golden.
7 hours ago · Report
cala At 4.10pm, I guess Tharmendran's lawyer knows best what is the best option available under the current condition. Surely the unpleasant incidents inflicted upon a Mongolian lady and TBH are very much alive in the minds of the people.
7 hours ago · Report
DISGUSTED Who says the JAIL is the safest place in Malaysia? What about KUGEN? and thousands of others especially Indians that had died in jails in Malaysia? THEREIS NO SAFE PLACE IN MALAYSIA.
7 hours ago · Report
rajm Malaysia so called civilised country in the name of al mighty God which is aspiring to attain developed status in the year 2020... But here an airforce man needs to go back to jail to protect himself form thugs and gangsters of the government just like PI Bala. What a shame, what a shame. Kakamahathir can you please explain what is happening to our beloved country Malaysia. Malasia.
7 hours ago · Report
Concern_Father Guys no point shooting at Mr.Anonymous..... he is just anonymous... does not exist...
8 hours ago · Report
Tony Its a sad day for Malaysia where jail is prefered over freedom. Instead of Imalaysia it should be IJail. Take care Thamendran. We hope you will be safe.
8 hours ago · Report
gerald Unfortunately, Samy SemiValue is adopting ' I no see and I no hear' attitude to all cases involving the community.
8 hours ago · Report
newdawn4pg@wordpress I have to agree with DOC, this guy has to leave the country... seek asylum in the UK... it is better than living the rest of your life in a prison... I m really sorry to say.. but it is really outrageous that the safest place in malaysia is the jail... sigh.... what has happened to Malaysia????
8 hours ago · Report
Sarawakian What does it says about a country where the safest place is in jail? The justice system chose to serves only those in power and the rich. The poor guys like us can rot for all they care.
8 hours ago · Report
nil A mere sergeant is able to steal a jet engine [it is not somethng which you can hde in your pants], get out of the hgh security store, transport it through customs, have it transerred to a ship..... No, a mere sergeant cannot do that[too many check points]. Where is the chain of command ? Even if he has actually done it, his higher ups are far more guilty for allowing the theft to happen. Let not Sergeant N Tharmendran be a lamb being led to slaughter. Let us hope that the devine court up there can see to it.
8 hours ago · Report
Arul Inthirarajah It is clear that the rule of law in Malaysia has broken down, and irretrievably so. UMNO/BN are robbing the country blind while the AG, IGP and MACC look on, knowingly, but silently, choosing to do nothing, and in so doing, lend themselves to being collaborators with the wrong doers. We have a self-admitted dishonest Chief Justice, who just so happens to be the former UMNO treasurer (privy to all it's dark secrets), who chooses 'friendly' judges who continually find judgments favorable to UMNO regardless of the evidence, constitution, or legal precedents thrust before their very noses. One has to ask; Is there any hope for the honest man in Malaysia anymore ?
8 hours ago · Report
LAW KOK SOON The safest place in 1Msia is jail. hehehe
9 hours ago · Report
smike27 Anonymous, you are fool and moron look here you moron or bapak moron, i'm an indian and always at his side ok and you are another UMNO lap Dog or you must be one of the UMNO minister. Hoi bodoh lu ingat senang kah angat satu engine keluar dari workshop, apa you ingat ini macam nasi lemak dengan sambal belacan. bodoh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 hours ago · Report
Swipenter Jail may not be the safest place since there are 421 recorded custodial deaths since 2001. Maybe Tharmendran should request to be housed at "Kamunting Hilton" since the police had arrested people under the ISA for their "own protection." Could be safer there than in Sg Buloh prison. Was the presence of the RMAF officers in the court signaling Tharmendran not to reveal involvement of others in this theft for his own good? It is crystal clear that Tharmendran is frightened out of his wits seeing those guys in court. The perception of the public is one of disbelief that only two guys could pull off such a stunt alone without involvement of others. Come to think of it Dr Porntip didnt feel safe either. She complained of being shadowed by some guys when she was here for TBH's second autopsy. Is our country becoming such an unsafe place these days?
9 hours ago · Report
VP Biden Where can an ordinary citizen turn for help if the judiciary,police and now the army does not uphold its moral obligations?This is both distressing and scary,the little man has no avenue for truth.Financially and morally bankrupt our beloved Malaysia!
9 hours ago · Report
Mohd. Hazwan I've heard of cases of citizens feeling unsafe in some countries in Africa. But now this virus has spread to our doorstep. Wasalam.
9 hours ago · Report
Lover Boy This man wants to be out and the lawyers have to plead with the judge to reduced it to 50K. Now that he is out the air force is trying to abduct him or perhaps intimidate him and sought the court for protection. Go back to jail by all means, but the lawyer must go on appeal to have this point tested. The High court judge may justy grant him the protection order.
9 hours ago · Report
Thisia One thing that boggles my mind is that, here were have a citizen who has openly said that he was tortured by the air force personals and in the process of bringing him into their custody one more time. Any one with sense would say that, yes he needs protection. So why on earth did the judge declined to give it??? Its either he is so damn stupid or someone is asking him to be stupid!!!
9 hours ago · Report
Tan Kian Khim The question is, is Tharmendran actually safe in a Malaysian jail, or will he end up becoming another statistic, another convenient 'accidental death' or 'suicide' in Malaysian custody? Alternatively, he could be induced to recant his statements - just like PI Bala after he was 'invited' to Brickfields police station. It is clear that this case is nowhere near as simple as the authorities are trying to make it look. One only hopes that Tharmendran will survive to help reveal the true extent of corruption in the Malaysian military and judicial system.
10 hours ago · Report
Louis Just facy that. It is safer to be in jail than being a free man. Malaysia sangat boleh. Hishamuddin together with the IGP should resign. What is the perception of investors on Malaysia when one does not feel protected by the laws of the country? Enough has been done to the economy of the country by BN led government.
10 hours ago · Report
Bozuka The AG will use ISA for Tharmendran safety.
10 hours ago · Report
anonymous Look like being in jail is safer than staying out of jail it. But, how sure is he? RMAF can sneak into the Sungai Buloh prison. Even police lock-up and MACC offices are not safe. Binatang merata-rata, koyak lah Malaysia.
10 hours ago · Report
DontPlayGod If I were you Tharmendran, I wouldn't choose to go to jail, knowing full well that more than 1700 deaths have occurred in our jails over the past 20 years. Torture and humiliation is standard practice carried out in our jails, whether in PDRM's jails, or MACC's interviewing rooms. If you are lucky, you may be one of the very few survivors coming out of the interviewing rooms. People have been killed for a case involving around 2000 ringgit, as in the case of Teoh Beng Hock.
10 hours ago · Report
Papspulus Anonymous at the rate you are going you will end up being "ANONYMOUS' the remaining years of your life. What the hell is wrong with you ???????. Whether Tharmendran is guilty or not is for the court to decide and we do not need your 2 sen advise here. Go get a life.
10 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Dear Anonymous, I have seen real big time fools and morons, but you beat them all. If they had a Malaysia Boleh cup for the best fool, you sure will be the winner
12 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Gangsters in uniform and robbers in suits acting in concert to thwart justice for an innocent and poor fall guy.
1 hours ago · Report
Saleem Khan What an accused going to jail to be protected from........the Complainant.......Y..n the Judge has no powers to protect him....It is not a racial issue it is a fact that our Judges dont know their law n have no common sense or as is rumoured that they are under instructions from UMNO, to which I am not privy..........................WHAT OF INHERENT JURISDICTION..dont blame this cow sitting higher than the more intelligent Lawyers who appear b4 her.
2 hours ago · Report
Robert L Sounds like mob rule in Malaysia now, where torture is practised everywhere, including in police custody, and in the air force. Never heard of anyone wanting to go to jail for protection until now...
2 hours ago · Report
Anonymous he has no option but to jump from the frying pan into the fire. He is cornered, in jail.
2 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Wow! What we are hearing now is elements in the RMAF is allegedly trying to abduct a civilian.
3 hours ago · Report
fairplayer May I suggest that Tharmendran be given pen and paper, or laptop, to detail what he knows about the jet engines disappearance and the torturers' identity/identities. Is there really protection in jail? Hopefully enough peace for some sanity and plenty of time to journal all his RMAF experiences. Tharmendran should reveal the names of his torturers.
3 hours ago · Report
Jimmy Ng ..wow!..looks like another sinister plot is hatching in Bolehland !! i smell C4 again !...this one has the makings of a Hollywood movie with a cloak & dagger plot !A??
3 hours ago · Report
Nathan Wah pikr itu ketua ar posh kasi tankap hatam sama dia habid habid sampai kasi lia mungta lalah.mana buleh itu satu sgt india ambek itu motor kapal teleban kasi juan sama itu lua negeli. Manyak belat loh.
3 hours ago · Report
Anonymous Please,this is not an Indian facing the music.For a period of time,paying my dues slightly more than twenty years,I'm quite sure that sgt.is going through all over again but this time no more a fool like the first time.But tonight,do you know what is he doing?Just after the main Muster,the last body count about 4.30pm,everyone has to be in their cells locked until tomorow morning.With two blankets each,by ten o'clock,all lights off.On the floor,you make your own decision with the blankets.Usually one folded as the pillow and the other,half to cover the body from the cement floor and the last half doing what normally it does.With good co-operation from the officers and staff,half of his security is being taken care off,but what about the other half?Due to lack of staff,be reminded of the old Malay proverb `Malang Tak Berbau.'The best I can suggest,get him placed under segregation which is one hour out of the cell everyday,so Presiden and DPP,can you imagine if you're there?
3 hours ago · Report
Ahmad Shahir b Mohd Nuri Let us all Malaysian united. Let us show UMNO/BN people power. Poor guy has to go to jail to protect himself and rich guy can engage own security or get out of this BOLEHLAND, a land of no hope should UMNO/BN continues to rule. Let us change all this nonsense to a better Malaysia under PR. We have seen enough and we have run out tears for all these poor people. Enough with Atlantuya and the two poor policemen, enough with Teoh Beng Hock, Kugan, Bala, RPK, Memali kampong folks, and so many more. Only our vote can put a stop to this.
4 hours ago · Report
pinsysu so najib expect us to believe that Tharmendran & Rajandran carried 1 jet engine each on their shoulder & walked out of the military camp & sold these engines at the pasar malam? more like the real culprits cud be directing the whole show trial & treat the rakyats like morons ...

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